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How are Vayne and Seraphine Doing Post-Patch?

Most of the recent nerfs were aimed at Vayne and Seraphine – how harshly were these two Champs struck, and how are their decks performing post-patch?

How Are Seraphine's and Vayne's Decks Doing Post-Patch?

Most of Runeterra's recent nerfs were aimed at Vayne and Seraphine, and for good reason: Seraphine was the star of the most popular deck in Runeterra, while Vayne's flexibility allowed her to have the most decks among the Top Ten that a Champ has had in quite some time.

So, how hard have they been struck by the recent nerfs, and how are their decks doing? Let's find out!

Sources: Legna, Balco, MaRu's meta tier list


Vayne Decks

Vayne herself was technically buffed, but her signature spell, Tumble, now costs one extra mana. And a staple Demacian spell often seen alongside Vayne, namely Golden Aegis, also saw its cost increased.

Vayne's many decks have reacted in various different ways, as we'll see below: from Quinn Vayne not caring one bit, to Zed Vayne probably now being a has-been.


Still a Powerhouse – Quinn Vayne, ft. Fiora

Quinn Vayne has seemingly shrugged off and brushed asides the nerfs as if they were really no big deal – what was pre-patch one of the best meta decks in Runeterra still hits like a truck today:

Regions
Demacia
32 cards
Piltover & Zaun
8 cards
Rarities
32 900
champion
6
epic
9
rare
8
common
17
Mana cost
0
0
6
1
16
2
7
3
4
4
3
5
4
6
0
7+
Champions
6
3
Vayne
3
Vayne
4
Fiora
1
Fiora
5
Quinn
2
Quinn
Equipments
6
2
The Darkin Harp
3
The Darkin Harp
2
The Darkin Aegis
3
The Darkin Aegis
Followers
17
1
Fleetfeather Tracker
3
Fleetfeather Tracker
1
Forge Chief
2
Forge Chief
2
Petricite Broadwing
3
Petricite Broadwing
3
Piltovan Castaway
3
Piltovan Castaway
4
Combat Cook
3
Combat Cook
6
Bloodcursed Harpy
3
Bloodcursed Harpy
Spells
11
1
Catch!
1
Catch!
2
Blinding Assault
2
Blinding Assault
2
Fish Fight
3
Fish Fight
2
Sharpsight
2
Sharpsight
3
Cataclysm
1
Cataclysm
5
Golden Aegis
1
Golden Aegis
6
Condemn
1
Condemn
Open deck in builder

Across 1,500+ games since the patch reached Runeterra, Quinn Vayne's best deck exhibits a winrate (WR) above 55%, and quite the impressive matchup spread: except for Teemo Zoe, Quinn Vayne has an edge (even if small) against most other popular Runeterra decks.

Best Vayne Decks: Quinn Vayne matchup spread
Source: Balco

Bottom Line: While it's not surprising for established, refined decks to do very well in the first new days of a new meta (since they prey upon unrefined concepts), Quinn Vayne's excellent matchup spread suggests that Vayne was more of a support card in this archetype, rather than a centerpiece, and the deck seems to work perfectly well in spite of the recent nerfs.


Nerfed, Yet Not (Yet) Beaten – Rumble Vayne

Rumble Vayne has surely seen better days (it became one of Legends of Runeterra's best decks right as Domination was launched, and remained so until the recent balance patch), but still packs a punch:

Regions
Demacia
11 cards
Noxus
29 cards
Rarities
26 500
champion
6
epic
3
rare
9
common
22
Mana cost
0
0
3
1
19
2
8
3
8
4
1
5
1
6
0
7+
Champions
6
3
Vayne
3
Vayne
4
Rumble
3
Rumble
Equipments
3
2
Great Hammers
3
Great Hammers
Followers
18
1
Blade Squire
3
Blade Squire
2
Fallen Rider
3
Fallen Rider
2
Ionian Hookmaster
3
Ionian Hookmaster
2
Rune Squire
3
Rune Squire
2
Runeweaver
3
Runeweaver
4
Ruined Reckoner
3
Ruined Reckoner
Spells
13
2
Legionary Charge
3
Legionary Charge
2
Single Combat
1
Single Combat
3
Cataclysm
3
Cataclysm
3
Whirling Death
2
Whirling Death
4
Riposte
2
Riposte
5
Golden Aegis
1
Golden Aegis
6
Condemn
1
Condemn
Open deck in builder

Its WR has dropped to a bit below 52% across 1,000 games since the patch landed, and as we can see below..

Best Vayne Decks: Rumble Vayne matchup spread
Source: Balco

… its matchup spread does not look too rosy. Annie Jhin was always a thorn in Rumble Vayne's thigh, but now Draven Jinx also presents really rough odds, and there's no matchup save Taliyah (which, should be noted, is a really bad deck) that Rumble Vayne can win consistently.

There may be hope still, though, as pilots tweak and refine it: a more aggressive Rumble Vayne version is doing quite well (around 54% in nearly 400 games), so perhaps all that's needed is to adapt and evolve.

Bottom Line: Rumble Vayne's current matchup spread is quite the red flag – but perhaps it's a matter of the deck not yet having been adapted to the changes brought by the patch, and perhaps tweaks and refinements can make it click again.


Surprise! – Gwen Vayne

Overall, as an archetype, Gwen Vayne is not doing splendid (it's barely holding to a 50% WR), yet its best version performs great: WR above 55%, albeit in a smallish, 200-game sample:

Regions
Shadow Isles
30 cards
Demacia
10 cards
Rarities
35 700
champion
6
epic
11
rare
11
common
12
Mana cost
0
0
7
1
7
2
16
3
3
4
1
5
3
6
3
7+
Champions
6
3
Vayne
3
Vayne
4
Gwen
3
Gwen
Landmarks
3
3
Opulent Foyer
3
Opulent Foyer
Equipments
4
2
The Darkin Aegis
2
The Darkin Aegis
1
The Darkin Halberd
2
The Darkin Halberd
Followers
10
1
Boisterous Host
3
Boisterous Host
2
Phantom Butler
3
Phantom Butler
3
Laurent Protege
1
Laurent Protege
6
Eternal Dancers
3
Eternal Dancers
Spells
17
1
Quietus
2
Quietus
2
Glimpse Beyond
2
Glimpse Beyond
3
Cataclysm
3
Cataclysm
3
Mist's Call
3
Mist's Call
3
Strike Up The Band
3
Strike Up The Band
5
Golden Aegis
1
Golden Aegis
7
Atrocity
2
Atrocity
10
The Harrowing
1
The Harrowing
Open deck in builder

Gwen Vayne was on track to becoming irrelevant by the end of last patch, so it's a bit surprising to find it doing well now (above all considering the nerfs to one of its champs) – while this may very well be a fluke, current numbers are encouraging.

Bottom Line: Hard to say – promising early numbers, but too small a sample size to say for sure.


An Improvised Struggle – Jax Vayne

Jax Vayne, a bit like Rumble Vayne, still shows a moderately good WR, at around 51%...

Regions
Demacia
29 cards
Runeterra
3 cards
Rarities
28 900
champion
6
epic
5
rare
10
common
19
Mana cost
0
0
4
1
19
2
6
3
4
4
5
5
2
6
0
7+
Champions
6
2
Jax
3
Jax
3
Vayne
3
Vayne
Equipments
3
2
The Darkin Aegis
3
The Darkin Aegis
Followers
19
1
Fleetfeather Tracker
1
Fleetfeather Tracker
1
Steadfast Elkin
3
Steadfast Elkin
2
Ionian Hookmaster
3
Ionian Hookmaster
2
Zealous Ranger-Knight
3
Zealous Ranger-Knight
3
Piltovan Castaway
3
Piltovan Castaway
4
Combat Cook
2
Combat Cook
4
Ranger-Knight Defector
2
Ranger-Knight Defector
6
Bloodcursed Harpy
2
Bloodcursed Harpy
Spells
12
2
Entrancing Lure
2
Entrancing Lure
2
Fish Fight
3
Fish Fight
2
Single Combat
2
Single Combat
5
Concerted Strike
2
Concerted Strike
5
Golden Aegis
3
Golden Aegis
Open deck in builder

… but, again like Rumble Vayne, has quite the discouraging matchup spread: Annie Jhin, Teemo Zoe and Quinn Vayne are all very bad matchups. Tweaks and refinements may still bring this brew forward (Jax Vayne has always been an archetype with lots of different versions), but right now the future looks grim.

Bottom Line: Like Rumble Vayne, while still alive Jax Vayne seems to be facing an "Evolve, or Die" ultimatum.


Presumed Dead – Zed Vayne, and Pantheon Vayne

Both Zed Vayne and Pantheon Vayne have seen quite a bit of play this patch, but with fairly disappointing WRs, well below the 50% mark.


Seraphine's Show

Step Aside, Piltover Boy! – Viktor Seraphine Shadows

With Ezreal out of the picture, Seraphine has turned to her Zaunite co-star: after a few tweaks to adapt to the nerfs, Viktor Seraphine looks like it's ready to bring the house down.

Regions
Piltover & Zaun
26 cards
Shadow Isles
14 cards
Rarities
28 400
champion
6
epic
4
rare
13
common
17
Mana cost
0
0
9
1
13
2
5
3
4
4
3
5
5
6
1
7+
Champions
6
2
Seraphine
3
Seraphine
4
Viktor
3
Viktor
Landmarks
3
6
Back Alley Bar
3
Back Alley Bar
Followers
5
1
Fallen Feline
3
Fallen Feline
5
Fanclub President
2
Fanclub President
Spells
26
1
Piltovan Tellstones
1
Piltovan Tellstones
1
Quietus
3
Quietus
1
Shadow Isles Tellstones
2
Shadow Isles Tellstones
2
Glimpse Beyond
1
Glimpse Beyond
2
High Note
1
High Note
2
Mystic Shot
1
Mystic Shot
2
Rummage
1
Rummage
2
Scrapdash Assembly
1
Scrapdash Assembly
2
Time Trick
2
Time Trick
2
Unspeakable Horror
1
Unspeakable Horror
2
Vile Feast
2
Vile Feast
3
Aftershock
1
Aftershock
3
Black Spear
1
Black Spear
3
Flash of Brilliance
1
Flash of Brilliance
3
Get Excited!
1
Get Excited!
3
Undergrowth
1
Undergrowth
4
The Box
1
The Box
5
Drum Solo
1
Drum Solo
6
Vengeance
2
Vengeance
7
Sputtering Songspinner
1
Sputtering Songspinner
Open deck in builder

Whatever negatives the nerfs may have brought seem amply compensated by how juicy some of the most popular decks look, when you look at them from Seraphine Viktor's PoV:

Best Seraphine Decks: Seraphine Viktor matchup spread
Source: Balco

Both Draven Jinx and Teemo Zoe look like easy prey, same does Annie Jhin, and while there's no lack of disfavorable matchups, none of them is disastrous.

Bottom Line: Viktor Seraphine SI was already Seraphine's strongest deck (although not the most popular, by a long shot) right before the patch landed – and the current matchup spread looks very enticing, suggesting it may be a great counter-deck for the upcoming meta.


Moonstruck – Aphelios Seraphine, ft. Zoe

Slowly getting traction since the balance patch landed, the best Aphelios Seraphine deck, featuring Zoe, now sits at a comfy 52%+ WR with more than 500 games under their belts.

Regions
Piltover & Zaun
25 cards
Mount Targon
15 cards
Rarities
30 900
champion
6
epic
7
rare
9
common
18
Mana cost
2
0
12
1
16
2
3
3
0
4
3
5
3
6
1
7+
Champions
6
1
Zoe
1
Zoe
2
Seraphine
3
Seraphine
3
Aphelios
2
Aphelios
Landmarks
3
6
Back Alley Bar
3
Back Alley Bar
Followers
9
1
Gift Giver
1
Gift Giver
1
Lunari Duskbringer
2
Lunari Duskbringer
1
Spacey Sketcher
2
Spacey Sketcher
1
Zaunite Urchin
2
Zaunite Urchin
2
Ballistic Bot
1
Ballistic Bot
2
Clump of Whumps
1
Clump of Whumps
Spells
22
0
Poro Cannon
1
Poro Cannon
0
Thermogenic Beam
1
Thermogenic Beam
1
Piltovan Tellstones
2
Piltovan Tellstones
1
Spell Thief
2
Spell Thief
2
Guiding Touch
2
Guiding Touch
2
High Note
1
High Note
2
Iterative Improvement
1
Iterative Improvement
2
Mystic Shot
1
Mystic Shot
2
Pale Cascade
2
Pale Cascade
2
Rummage
1
Rummage
2
Supercool Starchart
1
Supercool Starchart
2
Time Trick
1
Time Trick
2
Trail of Evidence
1
Trail of Evidence
3
Get Excited!
1
Get Excited!
5
Purrsuit of Perfection
3
Purrsuit of Perfection
7
Sputtering Songspinner
1
Sputtering Songspinner
Open deck in builder

Pre-patch, Seraphine Aphelios was already running just a single copy of Fanclub President, which probably made the deck more resilient to the nerfs.

Bottom Line: It's as if there was no patch for Aphelios Seraphine, and numbers are pretty similar to its pre-patch performance. A proven concept still doing well, making it quite a promising deck.


A New Chapter? – Bandle Viktor Seraphine

This deck's sample size is tiny (nearly 100 games), so we'll showcase it mostly on grounds of novelty – and an amazing 58% WR.

Regions
Piltover & Zaun
23 cards
Bandlecity
17 cards
Rarities
32 300
champion
6
epic
7
rare
16
common
11
Mana cost
1
0
7
1
13
2
1
3
3
4
3
5
7
6
5
7+
Champions
6
2
Seraphine
3
Seraphine
4
Viktor
3
Viktor
Landmarks
3
6
Back Alley Bar
3
Back Alley Bar
Followers
15
1
Otterpus
2
Otterpus
2
Conchologist
3
Conchologist
5
Fanclub President
3
Fanclub President
6
Curious Shellfolk
3
Curious Shellfolk
8
The Zaun Diva
1
The Zaun Diva
10
Plaza Guardian
3
Plaza Guardian
Spells
16
0
Thermogenic Beam
1
Thermogenic Beam
1
Group Shot
1
Group Shot
1
Piltovan Tellstones
1
Piltovan Tellstones
1
Trinket Trade
3
Trinket Trade
2
High Note
1
High Note
2
Mystic Shot
2
Mystic Shot
2
Pokey Stick
3
Pokey Stick
2
Time Trick
1
Time Trick
3
Wallop
1
Wallop
6
Minimorph
1
Minimorph
7
Sputtering Songspinner
1
Sputtering Songspinner
Open deck in builder

Presumed Dead – Ezreal Seraphine, and Viktor Seraphine Ionia

Both these decks have seen quite a lot of play, along with pretty awful results. Tweaks and improvements may revive them, but thus far they look like goners.


In Closing

You have to give it to Riot's devs, nerfs to Vayne and Seraphine seem to have hit just right: they are no longer a cut above every other champion in Runeterra, but they both still retain at least one strong deck (Quinn Vayne and Viktor Seraphine Shadows, respectively), and with tweaks and refinements there may end up having a couple more.

All in all, thus far it looks like a job well done!



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